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The disparaging phrase that something is run-of-the-mill is widespread in Switzerland, Germany and Austria. The origin of this expression for something average and boring lies in a German machine gun from the First World War.

The MG 08/15 machine gun was the standard weapon of the Army of the German Empire during the First World War. Introduced in 1908 and further developed in 1915, it began a veritable triumphant advance - not on the battlefield, but as a phrase. There are many versions of how it came about. One is that the MG 08/15 weapon required very intensive training and the soldiers, because of the daily and monotonous exercises, soon needed the expression 08/15 for everything that was boring and everyday. & Nbsp;

And as if the MG 08/15 hadn't gotten enough fat already, there is another version. In 1918, the German Institute for Standardization DIN introduced the very first national standard: DIN 1 stood for a metal pin that was built into every MG 08/15. Since then, this tapered pin has been manufactured nationwide with the same dimensions - this made it easier to replace this spare part regardless of where you are. People quickly used the term 08/15 for something standardized and average.

The turn of the word arrived in literature in 1954. At that time, the novel trilogy “08/15” by Hans Hellmut Kirst was published in Germany. His hero, Private Asch, tricked his superiors into avoiding the stupid and degrading drill in the barracks yard. Although some politicians and booksellers boycotted the novel, it became one of the first bestsellers in Germany.

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  • Comment from Bernd B., Basel
    So far I thought that 0815 came from the normal working hours of a German employee / civil servant from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. - and what the monotony and boredom associated with the job describes ...
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  • Comment from Falco Kirschbein, Freiburg i. Br.
    Small, insignificant correction: The "Wehrmacht" did not yet exist in World War I, as the successor to the Reichswehr it is a creation of the 1930s.

    The imperial army in 1915, on the other hand, consisted of the armed forces with the official names "German Army" and "Imperial Navy".
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    1. answer from Roman Lauer (SRF), Zurich
      Dear Mr. Kirschbein, thank you for the comment. We have corrected the article.
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